tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post156268639550967836..comments2024-01-14T18:14:23.866-08:00Comments on Delta Scape: Don't you get it?delta_dchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024582157985654525noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-62049991240968843152012-08-04T12:16:14.691-07:002012-08-04T12:16:14.691-07:00It sounds like your main beef is against bad teach...It sounds like your main beef is against bad teachers/teaching and not against the flip mentality. Flipping is just another tool that has proven to be useful to many teachers and beneficial to many students. Slamming it would be like slamming a hammer (no pun intended) because some people use it incorrectly or to create something bad. You could just as easily blame a textbook, a project-based-learning activity, or a video--that could have been great in a good teacher's hands--because it's used ineptly by a bad teacher. Blame the user, not the tool, if the tool has proven its benefit when used well.<br /><br />And like Robert, I too have used tools ineptly. A lot of the times, though, it's on my way to using them well. Don't be too harsh on teachers that have a slow learning curve, provided they don't get stuck at the bottom end of it.<br /><br />Mark (aka @magisterwarren on Twitter)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-89839372335636476692012-07-20T15:09:49.800-07:002012-07-20T15:09:49.800-07:00One thing that @troystein (Troy Stein of TechSmith...One thing that @troystein (Troy Stein of TechSmith, makers of Snagit screencasting software) suggested yesterday at #TMC12 was the idea of using it to mix things up, including creating an FCR video for use with something specific and/or as part of a sub plan during a class when I know in advance about a planned absence. This is extremely compatible with part of Henri Picciotto's philosophy (which I endorse wholeheartedly) -- namely that no one technique, activity, or idea will work all the time with all populations of students always. <br /><br />So having the idea/tool/resources to create an occasional (or not occasional) screencast is now a valuable tool I'm interested in exploring.<br /><br />One point that Troy made about schools that have (a) used the FCR model + screencasting and (b) studied its effectiveness (or lack thereof) was that student engagement drops off dramatically when the screencaster is NOT somebody the learner knows (i.e., teacher, friend, classmate). <br /><br />This suggested to me that screencasting is a way of extending the relational part of a student's learning environment -- not replacing it.<br /><br />Mentioned here FWIW.<br /><br />- Elizabeth (aka @cheesemonkeysf on Twitter)cheesemonkeysfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311170815422010013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-186906481620736932011-06-30T19:59:32.476-07:002011-06-30T19:59:32.476-07:00I'm talking about a backchannel out of class. ...I'm talking about a backchannel out of class. I want my students actively engaged with their resources out of class. That includes the text and any scasts of mine. <br /><br />I've tried two ways of the backchannel. The first was a home built summary and question collector. I used it for years, even before I was doing scasts for my students. Students would submit a summary and questions for the daily reading and in class I would randomly select one summary and show it and all the questions. That would help me figure out what to do in class along with being a good refresher on the material before we got started. I found it much easier to administer and much better for my teaching than the reading quizzes that had been suggested in some of the Peer Instruction materials I had read (though I tried those too, early on).<br /><br />This past semester I changed to using group.me, which is a texting version of a listserv. My students and I could text a message to one number and it would go to all of us. I liked this better because all the students could join in the conversation even before class. The best night was when I asked whether a ball's momentum or kinetic energy was the source of pain.<br /><br />Another method I'd like to try is Google Moderator. I have a colleague at Macalester College just down the road from my institution (Hamline University). He uses Google Moderator to let his students crowd-source the priority of the questions that are being asked. That way he knows which questions to tackle first in class. Students see the questions that others ask and can vote them up or down.<br /><br />The backchannel is a very important part of flipping for me. If the students don't engage with the material (both text and scasts) outside of class, they aren't ready for the interactive stuff we'll do in class.Andy Rundquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04900696452285397726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-26214504051317020782011-06-30T17:49:09.265-07:002011-06-30T17:49:09.265-07:00Andy,
The takeaway for me is the relationship part...Andy,<br />The takeaway for me is the relationship part. I like the idea of using in class lessons that allow learners and teachers to interact while problem solving. <br /><br />I've used twitter as a backchannel in classes and liked it (and wrote about it here: http://deltascape.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-did-my-teaching-go-today.html). Are you talking about using it out of class, as the learners watch the video? I would like to hear more about that.<br /><br />Robert,<br />You are not alone my friend.delta_dchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18024582157985654525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-58453924477440134212011-06-30T10:28:27.868-07:002011-06-30T10:28:27.868-07:00Agreed. The worst thing an instructor can do is sw...Agreed. The worst thing an instructor can do is swallow a "hot" pedagogical technique whole and not thinking things through. (Unfortunately I speak from personal experience.)Robert Talberthttp://castingoutnines.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-65411183601189677012011-06-30T08:24:18.532-07:002011-06-30T08:24:18.532-07:00I'd love to know what you're planning on t...I'd love to know what you're planning on taking. It's clear what you want to leave. I would add that you can certainly add in things that work even better for you. My example is the backchannel. When that's lively, my flipped philosophy is firing on all cylinders. When it's not, not so much.Andy Rundquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04900696452285397726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-76287799851917861092011-06-30T07:54:18.006-07:002011-06-30T07:54:18.006-07:00Robert,
You got it right. I think the inverted/fli...Robert,<br />You got it right. I think the inverted/flipped classroom has a lot of things to like but I worry that some of the things I like are not necessarily effective teaching practices. The thing that I want to make clear is that I am trying to focus on my reaction to the method and not the method itself.<br /><br />I appreciate that you have thought about these issues and are able to move beyond them. My concern is that other teachers using this approach have not taken the time to consider possible pitfalls. I'm not sure I would characterize them as lazy - more likely overwhelmed or unaware. It is my hope that by discussing why the method would not work for me (at least in the "pure" form), other teachers would take time to reflect on what would and would not work for them.delta_dchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18024582157985654525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-71238606706637836262011-06-29T11:31:15.566-07:002011-06-29T11:31:15.566-07:00I'm not sure I completely understand your conc...I'm not sure I completely understand your concerns here. What I am getting from your post is that you're concerned that the inverted classroom approach, for all its merits, doesn't address -- and in fact could aid -- the underlying issues with education, namely the vesting of control of the class in the instructor and a consumerist mindset on the part of students. Is that right? <br /><br />If so, I would just say that, like any other kind of pedagogy, you should definitely use only what works for your students. But I would also say that with the inverted classroom -- when used with care -- you can avoid excesses in "control, consumption, and perfectionism" quite easily. I have certainly learned not to be a perfectionist when making the screencasts for my courses (a cursory look through the more recent ones will make that painfully obvious), and you can structure the in-class activities in a way that allows for sudden deviations from whatever it was you had planned. <br /><br />Conversely, instructors who get on the flipped classroom bandwagon and use it somewhat blindly, even lazily, will end up with results basically indistinguishable from straight lecture. I hope that the inverted classroom does not end up as a "craze"; if it does, I think we instructors will have missed an opportunity to change education in a pretty profound way.Robert Talberthttp://castingoutnines.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com