tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post4484605171851461170..comments2024-01-14T18:14:23.866-08:00Comments on Delta Scape: Why didn't you tell us about that?delta_dchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024582157985654525noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-19672894044354954652013-08-06T16:32:38.631-07:002013-08-06T16:32:38.631-07:00I've presented Hattie's research to studen...I've presented Hattie's research to students enrolled in the Middle Level Education curriculum course at a local university. While this institution is a major presence in teacher education in my area, not one teacher-ed student heard of Visible Learning. <br /><br />That being said, "Why don't you just tell us the best way to teach math?" needs to be re-phrased to, "Let's learn about the strategies that have the greatest, positive impact on achievement." <br /><br />What does goal setting and progress monitoring look like in a math classroom? How are formative assessments used to drive instruction so that the math teacher delivers timely, effective feedback that can be immediately applied? What is the criteria for success? <br /><br />It's hard to argue that feedback and the like will fall out of favor because their effects are so great. But 3-acts, foldables, my favorite no, etc. may fade away with new instructional models replacing them because we don't know their impact.<br /><br />I love your statement about developing "practical wisdom that allows you to consider what's currently available to foster learning". What an opportunity to introduce Hattie's research and for teacher-ed students to learn how to analyze their own practice using pre-test/post-test calculating their effect sizes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-3333028420653027692013-08-06T08:02:13.506-07:002013-08-06T08:02:13.506-07:00I'm actually surprised at how much emphasis my...I'm actually surprised at how much emphasis my school of education placed on learning and what really constitutes doing math, especially when I compare it to the experience my wife had at a different, more traditional school, at which she learned how to write lesson plans in very specific formats and how to write on the chalkboard and overhead projector. What I'm sad about is how I didn't really understand how different the way I was being taught to teach was from how I was taught math as a student. I assumed that what I was learning to do as a teacher was what my teachers had learned, so it took a long time for me to realize that the way I learned math could have been done better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-17110744399304669632013-07-30T19:09:16.744-07:002013-07-30T19:09:16.744-07:00I think this post is right on the nose. We have to...I think this post is right on the nose. We have to be lifelong learners and students of our craft in order to be effective educators. If we all decided to stay in college until we learned everything there is to know about teaching, we'd all be dead before setting foot in a classroom (and I don't think zombies are eligible to become certified teachers, as far as I know).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09025084422261929614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-15205876637809180502013-07-29T19:27:39.420-07:002013-07-29T19:27:39.420-07:00This is a fair point, David.
From talking to the...This is a fair point, David. <br /><br />From talking to the particular teacher who brought up this point, they seemed completely surprised by the discussion we had, and I do not think your students would have that experience. They would probably know that they were being equipped with tools for furthering their own learning, rather than everything you know about teaching.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08098221991466148258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5957896812820341397.post-69045447365034332252013-07-29T11:29:40.818-07:002013-07-29T11:29:40.818-07:00I am honored to say that I am one of your (& J...I am honored to say that I am one of your (& John's) pre-service teachers. I learned how to think more critically, work collaboratively with others and take the positive out of a situation and build upon and/or adapt for my students.<br /><br />I think it is ludicrous for people to think they could have learned everything as a pre-service teacher, unless they wanted to be in school their entire career. Besides, if they did learn "everything" as a pre-service teacher, what would be left to explore? I wonder if these people will say, "why didn't I learn this in my 5th, 10th, etc. year of teaching?"<br /><br />TravisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com